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Post by lf1987 on Sept 20, 2018 20:16:51 GMT -5
Scumhunter, Thanks for your respect and for asking other's for the respect of other's. Honestly, I don't think he left on his own free will. That's why I don't think he could even turn himself in, even if he could. I don't think he's still alive. My opinion. There are some things that we know about that makes me wonder if he killed her, but the detectives never seemed to look into it. We feel they always suspected we knew what happened to him, but we have no idea. Really wished things could have been different. Maybe we will all find out the truth one day. Congratulations! He’s alive!
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2018 20:36:31 GMT -5
Interestingly, although David Williams (Hiers' alias in China) is a common enough name there is a book on Amazon called "Struggling in the US? Move to China!" written by a David A. Williams that's description eerily sounds similar to Hiers. Could just be a concidence tho. www.amazon.com/dp/7119050877/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wObPBb1VWZ9HX
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Post by vigilanti on Sept 20, 2018 21:44:07 GMT -5
I looked into the "David A. Williams" who authored this book, and it seems he did some acting as well. Here is a link to a reel containing some of his acting: www.imdb.com/name/nm6077746/videoplayer/vi1976150041?ref_=nm_rvd_vi_1For instance, he appeared in a 2007 movie called "Diamond Dogs". This man bears resemblance to Hiers, although I am not 100% certain it is him. His eyes appear to be the same color, and I do detect a bit of the "Southern twang" that we saw in his AMW/Hunt profile in this man's voice. I wonder if it was indeed him...it was mentioned that he arrived in Beijing in the spring of 2006, which would have been a year after Hiers went on the lam. He was located in Shanghai. It seems rather incredible for a major fugitive to decide to appear in films, but we have seen instances before where fugitives do not always lay low (if I remember correctly, FBI "Ten Most Wanted" fugitive Eric Toth decided to speak at tech conventions under an assumed name). Of course, Hiers moved overseas, but even still it would seem rather brazen for him to decide to become an actor. It would be interesting to know how long Hiers was in China and what path he took to get there, such as if he fled into Mexico/Central America and then boarded a flight to China. It is quite possible he obtained fake ID and stayed in the US and took a flight to China after ditching his car at the border, in my humble opinion. I hope that Hiers is extradited soon so he can finally appear in court - this is one of the first fugitives I paid attention to when I started watching AMW in 2007. I believe the news stating he has been apprehended, but have his fingerprints been matched yet? I only hope this is not another "Robert Fisher capture" case. The Marshals' Website has not yet been updated to reflect his capture.
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Post by catchumall on Sept 20, 2018 21:50:31 GMT -5
Wow! Unexpected catch.
Hopefully many countries don't take too kindly to murderers and child molesters seeking asylum to avoid extradition. Don't expect Hiers to touch US soil just yet though.. probably a long drawn out process to start extradition proceedings.
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Post by vigilanti on Sept 20, 2018 21:54:04 GMT -5
A link to a Facebook page for David A. Williams: www.facebook.com/actordavidw/It shows that this man was in Los Angeles recently as well. Perhaps it (this David A. Williams) is not Hiers then, but if he had fake identification then perhaps he could have traveled back and forth (other high-profile fugitives have done this, apparently Andre Neverson as a recent example)...I am looking forward to seeing what is revealed in the days to come. Again, he does bear resemblance to Hiers.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2018 22:46:25 GMT -5
A link to a Facebook page for David A. Williams: www.facebook.com/actordavidw/It shows that this man was in Los Angeles recently as well. Perhaps it (this David A. Williams) is not Hiers then, but if he had fake identification then perhaps he could have traveled back and forth (other high-profile fugitives have done this, apparently Andre Neverson as a recent example)...I am looking forward to seeing what is revealed in the days to come. Again, he does bear resemblance to Hiers. Ah ok that guy doesnt look like Hiers at all so if that's the same actor who wrote the back then it's just coincidence he has the same name as Hiers' alias.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2018 22:46:49 GMT -5
Who wrote the book, not back.
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Post by lf1987 on Sept 20, 2018 23:42:25 GMT -5
I checked out the Facebook page and found a post that included his height. He is under 6’. Hiers is what...6’3”? Poor guy is just unfortunate enough to have the same name and similar story! Hope he doesn’t catch any problems professionally or personally because of it!!!
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2018 23:57:31 GMT -5
I think the best thing he has going for him is he's not arrested which means he can prove he's not him based on that alone lol. I do agree it's unfortunate he might potentially get confused for the fugitive. Also I forgot to answer vigilanti's inquiry about Eric Toth. Toth was going to speak at a technology conference in Las Vegas but never appeared despite being booked. He probably wisely figured it would be too risky but some fugitives hide in plan sight like that. Hiers himself didn't really appear to try that hard if you think about it though, as he was seemingly very outgoing for a guy on the run. www.google.com/search?q=eric+toth+technology+conference&oq=eric+toth+technology+conference&aqs=heirloom-srp..
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Post by vigilanti on Sept 21, 2018 17:34:43 GMT -5
Yes, I agree that the David A. Williams in the IMDB reel and Facebook page is probably not the man identified as being Hiers, especially considering his height. I thought some of his photos resembled those of Hiers at first. If he posts updates in the coming days, that will prove to me that it is not him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 21, 2018 18:29:40 GMT -5
Yeah it did sound like him though, but nevertheless. In all honesty, I think my biggest surprise isn't that Hiers was in China, but how not really in hiding he was. I imagined Hiers like having a quiet life, possibly with another wife/girlfriend and children in some small villa or house in a foreign country. Even as an English teacher, I'd figure he'd be reserved.
He was reportedly allegedly was trying to date female students, bodyguard for a well-known actor etc...
Maybe he figured eff it I'm going to do what I want, I'm all the way in China, they won't extradite me, or something like that. But the main thing is he's finally in custody, so I'm glad it seems he didn't entirely change his ways.
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Post by Maddog on Sept 25, 2018 19:31:20 GMT -5
One hurdle: China does not have an extradition treaty with the United States. They better hope the Chinese deport him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 26, 2018 0:57:57 GMT -5
Unless Hiers became a legal citizen there, he is still illegally in the country and should be deported. He's currently at least detained in China, but this is the likely the reason the U.S. Marshals haven't confirmed his capture, even though it does seem based on reports that he is in fact in Chinese custody.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 26, 2018 22:05:13 GMT -5
The talk about Dan Hiers’ capture in China leads me to think what could be accomplished in many cases including Lisbio Couto if Hiers is indeed extradited back to the United States.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 27, 2018 0:15:27 GMT -5
Hiers gives hope for non-native fugitives in Asian countries. Couto and others who are natives are much tougher situations.
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