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Post by ninja108 on Feb 20, 2020 4:40:30 GMT -5
I compare Sarah's case to Randy Halprin, a member of the infamous Texas Seven. Even before he broke out of prison and took part in the murder of a police officer,he had beaten an infant so badly he fractured his skull. He is an evil piece of garbage. However,there is more then enough to prove the judge hearing his case hated the fact he was Jewish even more then his criminal record of beating a helpless child and killing a police officer and I fully agree with him that he deserves a new trial,him being a garbage human being aside. He would likely be found guilty again but at least the impartiality of the judge won't be in question. Same thing here. Sarah Pender is IMO an evil person who has no problem using others and throwing them away for her own needs. But the evidence that has come to light since her conviction shows she deserves a new trial. Ironic that her own actions more then anything else have likely ensured that won't happen. Pride goes before a fall and in her case,she fell hard and she isn't going to get back up.
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Post by ninja108 on Jan 6, 2023 13:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 6, 2023 13:53:56 GMT -5
I've said often times the problem with society in general although mostly in political stances- is that people think there's two sides to a story only- when at time both arguments could be factually correct and/or there's nuance at hand.
I believe Sarah Pender is a manipulative liar. I also believe she's possibly correct that she was overcharged/convicted based on now flimsy evidence and should be released by now.
You can be a terrible person but still correct in your argument.
You can be a terrible person accused of a crime but there's reasonable doubt to not convict.
Sarah Pender is definitely a nuanced and complicated case. She isn't completely innocent, but she may not be completely guilty either.
Been torn myself over the years and feels there's no easy answer other than to at least grant her a new trial.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 7, 2023 7:18:32 GMT -5
I will say though one thing that's always stuck with me is I think I remember during the AMW reports how even the Marshals who arrested her after her escape said they were afraid of her because of how intelligent and deceptively charming she can be. Even the Marshals!
At the same time, sorry to sound like a broken record, but both statements can be true- Sarah Pender can be a dangerously manipulative person but also not guilty of murder at the same time. (Well not completely innocent but overcharged and should have served her time already for her role at the same time).
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Post by ninja108 on Jan 7, 2023 8:27:03 GMT -5
I will say though one thing that's always stuck with me is I think I remember during the AMW reports how even the Marshals who arrested her after her escape said they were afraid of her because of how intelligent and deceptively charming she can be. Even the Marshals! At the same time, sorry to sound like a broken record, but both statements can be true- Sarah Pender can be a dangerously manipulative person but also not guilty of murder at the same time. (Well not completely innocent but overcharged and should have served her time already for her role at the same time). I will say all along she has been her own worst enemy in this though, and that her lack of seeming not to care about the people killed in the original crime or hurt in her escape plan has hurt her. Still, the justice system is supposed to convict people on crimes they've committed, not how much of a jerk/horrible person they are. There is more then enough evidence to prove she deserves a new trial. I hope she will finally get one.
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Post by Maddog on Jan 9, 2023 22:51:31 GMT -5
I will say this: if the man who prosecuted her has concerns that she may be innocent, we should be listening carefully. I hope the Courts do, too. What may ultimately happen is she may plead to a lesser offense for time served if allowed.
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