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Post by eal22 on Nov 18, 2019 23:30:09 GMT -5
Roy Harrell's sighting is pretty much discredited as he was proven to be seeking attention and telling tall tales. The other European sightings are questionable although offered in good faith at least. If Bishop is/was alive I feel he most likely just stayed in the USA. It would be much easier for him to remain undetected as an American in the USA than it would be for him to not stick out as a foreigner in Italy, Croatia, Botswana, etc.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 18, 2019 23:49:48 GMT -5
We've established the Harrell sighting has had some debates as to credibility, I only mentioned his sighting in Italy since it's still part of the story whether it's true or not, but there were other sightings in Europe as well. Those sightings could also have been false as well. I unfortunately think this is one mystery we will never solve.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 14, 2021 2:19:07 GMT -5
Interesting article with 63-year-old Kathy Gillcrist, who has recently discovered she is likely Brad Bishop's biological daughter after she did a 23andMe DNA test. Bishop apparently had a tryst in college in New England and that is how he likely gave birth to her.
Crazy way to find out although now that we have someone who may be Bishop's daughter, maybe it could help even more to identifying him through genealogy.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 16, 2021 19:21:07 GMT -5
Interesting article with 63-year-old Kathy Gillcrist, who has recently discovered she is likely Brad Bishop's biological daughter after she did a 23andMe DNA test. Bishop apparently had a tryst in college in New England and that is how he likely gave birth to her. Crazy way to find out although now that we have someone who may be Bishop's daughter, maybe it could help even more to identifying him through genealogy. I have a feeling this could be the beginning of the end in the mystery in what happened to Brad Bishop. I can’t really say he’s on the run at this point, although I think there is a 20% chance he’s still alive compared to 3 years ago during his final months on the Top Ten List at 60%. Based on this info I feel like perhaps maybe this year or perhaps next year in 2022, we will likely find out what happened to Bishop and close the case, I’m confident of that, however if he’s still alive that would just turn my internal emptiness into happiness for years to come knowing Brad Bishop would be captured alive due to genealogy. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 5, 2021 20:28:06 GMT -5
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 5, 2021 22:12:23 GMT -5
With Gillcrist confirmed to be Brad Bishop’s daughter I genuinely think we’re at the beginning of the end in this case. I tend to wonder, with this new development could AMW still consider it a fugitive case to give it one last boost of publicity to see where he is or his remains, or are we basically at the beginning of the end of the case? |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 5, 2021 23:19:11 GMT -5
New AMW seems to be going heavy on the cold cases so I wouldn't be surprised if they aired him again.
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Post by TheWebDetective on Mar 6, 2021 17:30:37 GMT -5
An interesting development that can help authorities with the case. But since he had her long before his crimes and without knowing of her existence, I don't see, at least face value, how this will help authorities with what happened to Bishop after. I look at it like when they found the biological mother to Joe Sinnott Edwards. They found a direct relative that can corner the fugitive but can only do so much.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 6, 2021 17:47:20 GMT -5
An interesting development that can help authorities with the case. But since he had her long before his crimes and without knowing of her existence, I don't see, at least face value, how this will help authorities with what happened to Bishop after. I look at it like when they found the biological mother to Joe Sinnott Edwards. They found a direct relative that can corner the fugitive but can only do so much. Unfortunately I agree with you. But at least it gives one last gasp of hope but ever since the FBI top ten publicity didn't do the trick I'd decided this would be a case that would forever go unsolved. |
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Post by Maddog on Mar 11, 2021 23:44:19 GMT -5
I would love to find out what happened to Bishop, but I believe that window has closed. I think the best they can do with the revelation regarding his biological daughter is get a better DNA profile in case a body does surface.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Aug 1, 2021 19:09:43 GMT -5
Today is Brad Bishop’s 85th birthday, it’s also been more than 3 years now since he’s been removed from the Top Ten List and I decided to rant a little on my thoughts about this case now.
Within the first year or so, I was pretty upset that Bishop was taken off the list, because as far as worst of the worst in the 2010s as far as how many murders were committed in a single crime, he had 5 victims which made him worst of the worst.
It wasn’t until the additions of Eugene Palmer in May 2019 and Jose Villarreal-Hernandez in October 2020, that I stopped feeling upset about Bishop’s removal.
The reality is that I’m glad they removed a fugitive on the run almost half a century and made room for more recent and terrible fugitives, I’m pretty torn as to how I feel because I’m starting to open up to the possibility that Bishop was killed by a wild animal in the Great Smokey Mountains in Tennessee immediately after the murders, I just can’t see someone who’s as unhinged as Bishop roaming Europe, Canada or Asia without attracting any attention to themselves.
If Bishop is still alive, he’s likely living or lived somewhere in Russia, Mongolia, or Mainland China, where he probably is living or lived out the rest of his life as a fugitive, with a very quiet life, where it’s basically impossible to get him back whether it’s in a casket or extradition wise.
While I don’t see Bishop as the worst addition to the Top Ten List, it was worth a try to see if they could get Bishop, especially since the FBI was feeling pretty confident after the arrest of James Whitey Bulger 3 years prior to Bishop’s addition.
All we can hope for is that Bishop’s remains are found soon and have closure in this case, despite everything in the book being thrown at this case.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 1, 2021 19:52:57 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest- I think you may have a little bit of bias being he's from around your hometown  - as in my opinion it was a mistake to add him or rather too little too late- he should have been added in the 70s or 80s or even 90s but by 2014 it was too little too late. As terrible as his crimes were and still are, they missed the opportunity to capitalize on him being on the list the most. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 29, 2021 5:33:55 GMT -5
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Post by billsfans568 on May 17, 2022 21:18:30 GMT -5
I’ve watched the UM segment on this for the past few days i have doubts he’s alive and that the Italy sighting was even legit i really don’t like How UM portrayed that but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to make a segment but i felt that Robert Stack was rolling his eyes the whole time while having to read about the Italy sighting. Assuming Bishop got out of the Appalachian Mountains and actually lived probably a quiet peaceful life it makes you wonder what he did or how he hid out so well he had a average look and could blend in easily and he certain had training by the government to do so. My grandpa was born in April of 1937 so he’s 16 months younger then Bishop and still Alive of course he’s not a fugitive who had to run from the FBI either. I’ve looked at a few John Doe cases over the past few years but besides the 1981 Alabama Car Crash victim i haven’t found anything that resembles Bishop. I do believe he left the country for a short period of time if he got out of Tennessee so while i don’t think the Italy sighting was legit i do think the 1978 Stockholm Sweden sighting was and the 1994 Basel Switzerland Sighting was probably the most legit one.
Of course neither can be proven to be true chances are Bishop did stay or return to America at some point and one of us here has possibly passed him on the street and didn’t even realize it but that’s just a guess.
Also am i the only one who thinks that killers like John List, Bishop and Robert Fisher just basically copy each other but go from one extreme to another?
John List. Shoots his family at home but leaves them there and gets a one month head start and is captured thanks to AMW 18 years later
Brad Bishop. Kills his family put their bodies in the trunk and then throws them in a North Carolina Coastal Park and sets them on fire but gets a week ahead start
Robert Fisher. Goes to what some would call the ultimate extreme by shooting his wife then Slashing his children's throats then ten hours later his house explodes and like Bishop, Fisher car is found near a rural area with reported sighting of him soon after.
I truly feel that John List started it then Bishop copied him but took it to a certain extreme then Fisher Copied Bishop and List and did the unthinkable when he blew the house up for the ultimate extreme of someone killing their family.
Sorry to ramble on like this but these family murders have really caught my attention lately just how somebody can do that I’ll never understand.
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Post by phishakid10 on May 19, 2022 5:56:20 GMT -5
Having done ridiculous amounts of research on the Bishop Case in order to write my novel on the matter. I think it is safe to say this is a long, elaborate thought out plan. The man hired guns to kill his family while he was out of town, just for him to come back and see them still alive. The men he hired then tell him "they ain't no kid killers", which forces him to take matters into his own hands. The correspondence he had with an inmate is key here, because it goes on to mention an incarcerated female in North Carolina. Who this woman is, I am still yet to find out but she was absolutely the woman spotted with him at the Sporting Goods Store hours after authorities find his family in that shallow grave. Him going to the Smoky Mountains is another calculated move, because if you think about it he can now blend with a tour group and ultimately break off on his own. What is at the other end of the Smoky Mountains? Three possible airports that would have been operating at that time period. Research shows how he adored life over seas, for that matter, it's the motive behind the murders all together. His wife wanted to stay home and establish an "American Dream" style of living. Brad on the other hand, did not. So him coming back is highly unlikely in my view. I almost wonder if this woman he picked up was an immigrant of sorts. Her identity is a def a missing piece at least in my theories, and thought process. A piece of information I have been sought after for years now to help make a more educated conclusion.... One day maybe I suppose
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- as in my opinion it was a mistake to add him or rather too little too late- he should have been added in the 70s or 80s or even 90s but by 2014 it was too little too late. As terrible as his crimes were and still are, they missed the opportunity to capitalize on him being on the list the most.