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Post by theczar on Jun 29, 2013 10:35:18 GMT -5
Police and the FBI are looking for the murderer(s) of the Short family back in 2002. In August 2002, Michael and Mary Short were found murdered in their home. Michael was found shot in the head on his couch, and Mary was found shot in the head in their bed. Their 9 year-old daughter, Jennifer, was nowhere to be found. AMW profiled this case multiple times, trying desperately to find Jennifer. Sadly, a little over a month later, Jennifer's body was found near a stream bed in North Carolina. She too had been shot in the head. As the years went by, this case became all but forgotten. Back in 2008/2009, the FBI developed new interest in this case, as well as searching out several possible clues and theories. During the time of the murders, Michael Short was seeking employment as a mobile home mover around South Carolina. The FBI is looking for anyone who had any sort of business discussion, deals, etc. with Short around that time. They are also looking for anyone who had any sort of contact with Michael, Mary, or even Jennifer, right before the murders. A witness also claimed to have seen an unknown man sitting in a truck near the Short home hours before the murders. A sketch has been released. This is a weird case. In the beginning, the obvious thought was that someone killed the parents to get to Jennifer, but I don't think any evidence of sexual assault or rape was found on her. That being said, does anyone know how much her body had decompensated? Meaning, how long did the killer keep her before killing her? I'm also not so sure about the FBI's possible theory that motive may have been with regards to a mobile home moving business. I know business can get messy, but killing a whole family for something that petty? Thoughts? Admin Note: If you have any information concerning this case, our advice would be to please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate. You can also submit a web tip at tips.fbi.govAdmin Note #2: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-formwww.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/jennifer-short/viewAttachments:
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 29, 2013 10:46:18 GMT -5
I think the thing is- if this was personal and not a sexual predator- why wouldn't Jennifer been found along with her parents? It doesn't mean it has to be the case for every situation- but this is almost identical to the way Joseph Duncan kidnapped Dylan and Shasta Groene.
I guess business dealings are a good avenue to go down- but I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the obvious theory- that it was a sexual predator who wanted to get to Jennifer.
Of course it is possible the killer purposely abducted Jennifer and killed her later to make it look like an abduction case- but it seems to me to be unique for someone to put that much thought into a revenge murder.
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Post by theczar on Jun 29, 2013 13:40:45 GMT -5
I'll admit, it's possible that maybe he kidnapped her with intent to have his way with her, but maybe she put up such as struggle and fight that he figured it wasn't worth it. But then again, that means he committed triple murder for nothing. Also, I wonder if Duncan was ever thought as a suspect in this case.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 29, 2013 14:57:03 GMT -5
I was mentioning it was almost the same situation as Duncan's- a murder and kidnapping- but now it looks I may have uninentionally stumbled onto something lol.
But as for Duncan, in John Walsh Investigates' pilot episode, John Walsh interviewed Shasta Groene. She mentioned a bunch of murders Duncan bragged about committing to her while she was captive (don't recall all of them but one was in Washington state for which he was convicted). It seems odd to me he would admit to a bunch of murders to his hostage but not mention the short family murders if he was involved.
I hate to debunk my own unintentional theory, except to say it seems to me to have the possibility of the same MO. But who knows. It is so eerily similar to the Grone murder/kidnappings I hope the possibility was brought up at least.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jun 29, 2013 16:32:28 GMT -5
I was mentioning it was almost the same situation as Duncan's- a murder and kidnapping- but now it looks I may have uninentionally stumbled onto something lol. But as for Duncan, in John Walsh Investigates' pilot episode, John Walsh interviewed Shasta Groene. She mentioned a bunch of murders Duncan bragged about committing to her while she was captive (don't recall all of them but one was in Washington state for which he was convicted). It seems odd to me he would admit to a bunch of murders to his hostage but not mention the short family murders if he was involved. I hate to debunk my own unintentional theory, except to say it seems to me to have the possibility of the same MO. But who knows. It is so eerily similar to the Grone murder/kidnappings I hope the possibility was brought up at least. I highly doubt it was Duncan. It was revealed on the last AMW airing that investigators have hair samples and fingerprints of whoever is responsible. Whoever left those prints is not in the FBI system and surely Duncan HAS to be in the FBI system. articles.wdbj7.com/2011-01-24/short-family_27047238However I'm at a loss of actual theories myself. The FBI press release mentioned that they wanted to speak to people who worked for Michael Short, which would include migrant workers. Also to answer a question from theczar, Jennifer's remains were found as a partial skeleton, so detecting sexual assault would have been near-impossible. Authorities feel that Jennifer was the most likely target of this, however, how the perpetrator learned about Jennifer is a mystery. Something else that interests me is from a local poster on another crime-related forum claimed that no one could have traveled that highway in the dark and saw the face of the person depicted in the sketch that theczar provided. It's also unusual that this person recalled the details of this individual seven years after the crime occurred. I also want to point out that even the amw.com page for this case doesn't have the person in the sketch as the main picture featured (in fact, no actual sketch or photo is featured). There's nothing to say that the person in the sketch is necessarily even involved in this or may have even have been an accomplice. (The FBI hasn't even called this person a suspect) With that in mind, it's quite possible that an illegal migrant worker could be involved. Since not even a fingerprint exists on file, the perpetrator could be a Latin American national and fled the United States shortly after the crime occurred. This is just one possibility however. My feeling is that whoever is responsible, doesn't live in the local area anymore. transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0210/04/bn.08.htmlwww.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=73169
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Post by theczar on Jun 30, 2013 0:08:44 GMT -5
I was curious to know the state of her remains. That tells me she was probably killed not long after her parents murders. While it probably was a sexual offender, I'm really curious as to why the FBI is focused heavily on Michael's business interests. Seems like they believe that may play a big part
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Post by pakman on Jul 14, 2013 23:21:53 GMT -5
I remember back when AMW first aired this case, one possibility police were looking at was an incident that involved Mary back in the early 90s. Apparently a man nobody knew showed up at her employer and demanded to see her. Her fellow employees refused, and when they threatened to call the police, the man disappeared. Mary never mentioned the man to anybody, and I don't think anybody ever figured out who the guy was.
Like everybody else has said, it really makes you wonder if Jennifer was the intended target. Why else would her body have been dumped so far away? Such a strange and tragic case.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 13, 2015 15:39:24 GMT -5
Bumping this up since "Crime Watch Daily" did a segment on this case today. Unfortunately no new updates. They mentioned a neighbor was once looked at, and another man who left for Canada the day after the homicides was also looked at but there was never any evidence to directly tie them to the Short murders. (The man who left for Canada died of natural causes in 2014).
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 22, 2016 2:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by profiler24 on Dec 30, 2016 18:42:06 GMT -5
Queries: Why wasn't the so called "neighbor" more deeply investigated?? Was the truck of the unknown man ever identified nad his plates identified as well? Have the ballistics results given something?
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 2, 2017 1:16:37 GMT -5
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