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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 28, 2016 19:44:10 GMT -5
Well i noticed that Gerena wasn't rotated again this week also check out the list so far this month and in particular notice Gerena.  This screenshot was taken 04/05/16 1 day BEFORE Brenda replaces Jaqory Mason on the list.  This screenshot was taken on 04/06/16 the day Brenda is added to the list.  This screenshot was taken when Delgado was taken into custody on 04/08/16 and the rotation stays until 04/21/16  This screenshot was taken on 04/21/16 and there you notice Gerena is skipped and Bishop is moved which is wierd since he's been on the run longer than Gerena.  This screenshot was taken today and Gerena was skipped again this week. Now here's my speculation on this. Gerena may have been skipped since the FBI is probably wanting to put the other cases first and then Gerena which is the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that this could be the beginning of the end for Gerena on the ten most wanted list and i don't think he'll be removed quickly but within 1-2 years at the most. This something I've noticed for weeks and it was the exact same thing with Semion Mogilevich if you pull up an image of the ten most wanted list on the FBI site from 2013/2014 and 2015. Right now it's too early to tell if he in fact will be removed or not. But I'll let you guys decide. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 28, 2016 20:12:12 GMT -5
Could just mean he's not the highest priority as far as eliciting tips from the public as it's really a matter of getting Cuba to extradite if he's there. Doesn't mean he'll be removed, just that he's not as high as a priority to highlight compared to other cases.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 28, 2016 20:20:15 GMT -5
Probably that's what it may be.. I'm confident he'll be brought back since he isn't a certain 79 year old hiding in Italy or a Russian mobster living in Russia. The pieces to the puzzle make sense since Gerena and $80,000 have not been recovered, do I feel He may have travelled to Puerto Rico if he's not in Cuba
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Post by eal22 on Oct 21, 2016 18:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 22, 2016 0:10:25 GMT -5
That was a very good article. It seems like the officials Gerena's cousin met and others were initially helpful but there was soon an aura of suspicion and paranoia.
Whether that's the reason he wasn't able to contact Gerena, or the antiquated phone system, or the santeria-esque priest was actually right about Gerena not being in Cuba remains to be seen.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 23, 2016 22:06:27 GMT -5
Mmmm where it's cold and everyone wears a uniform...... perhaps China, Russia, or North Korea??? But I doubt he'd be in those countries because it seems very damning and overwhelming suspicion by everyone they ran into trying to hide him which leads me to believe even more that he's actually in Cuba but they don't want to reveal it as they don't want to reveal that they had a hand in everything that had to do with the 1983 robbery.
I'm convinced he is getting good protection and money from the Cuban government, while Chesimard and the others live freely giving interviews and it seems I might understand it now. Chesimard didn't shoot the trooper with Cuban government aid, she did it herself and that's why we've heard so much from her as they feel she isn't someone they should hide, and it explains why a peep hasn't been heard from Gerena in 33 years. But also this was back in 2001 so things may have changed since then probably.
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Post by King Of Clubs on Oct 28, 2016 16:51:49 GMT -5
As I've said before I truly believe he is dead. Why would Castro sit and worry for 33 years about the possibility of him speaking out or fleeing when he could have just gotten rid of him right there and then when he got on the island? It'd save him alot of money and worrying.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 29, 2016 13:58:37 GMT -5
As I've said before I truly believe he is dead. Why would Castro sit and worry for 33 years about the possibility of him speaking out or fleeing when he could have just gotten rid of him right there and then when he got on the island? It'd save him alot of money and worrying. I have to disagree because allegedly the Cuban intelligence was behind the 1983 robbery and in order to cover up the fact that they had a hand in it, they may have kept Gerena hidden in some Government villa or maybe given him a completely new identity by them to be able to erase his past, but still stays in touch with the government. My guess is that when Gerena's cousin visited Cuba in 2000 or 2001, they likely hid everything from Gerena about his visit and of course internet censorship too may play a role in this since he may not have access to the pages eal22 shared with us. Right now 16 years after the visit things are getting better and Cuba is starting to open up, I have hope that Gerena may be brought back but it'd require hours of dialogue with both Governments, but if not, wait till Raul Castro steps down in 2018 to see what happens. |
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Post by King Of Clubs on Oct 31, 2016 21:59:13 GMT -5
As I've said before I truly believe he is dead. Why would Castro sit and worry for 33 years about the possibility of him speaking out or fleeing when he could have just gotten rid of him right there and then when he got on the island? It'd save him alot of money and worrying. I have to disagree because allegedly the Cuban intelligence was behind the 1983 robbery and in order to cover up the fact that they had a hand in it, they may have kept Gerena hidden in some Government villa or maybe given him a completely new identity by them to be able to erase his past, but still stays in touch with the government. My guess is that when Gerena's cousin visited Cuba in 2000 or 2001, they likely hid everything from Gerena about his visit and of course internet censorship too may play a role in this since he may not have access to the pages eal22 shared with us. Right now 16 years after the visit things are getting better and Cuba is starting to open up, I have hope that Gerena may be brought back but it'd require hours of dialogue with both Governments, but if not, wait till Raul Castro steps down in 2018 to see what happens. Very possible, and a good theory! But wouldnt it be much easier for the Cuban intelligence just to whack him than to spend time and money hiding him? Surely word wouldn't get out if they just killed him. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 31, 2016 22:04:00 GMT -5
I have to disagree because allegedly the Cuban intelligence was behind the 1983 robbery and in order to cover up the fact that they had a hand in it, they may have kept Gerena hidden in some Government villa or maybe given him a completely new identity by them to be able to erase his past, but still stays in touch with the government. My guess is that when Gerena's cousin visited Cuba in 2000 or 2001, they likely hid everything from Gerena about his visit and of course internet censorship too may play a role in this since he may not have access to the pages eal22 shared with us. Right now 16 years after the visit things are getting better and Cuba is starting to open up, I have hope that Gerena may be brought back but it'd require hours of dialogue with both Governments, but if not, wait till Raul Castro steps down in 2018 to see what happens. Very possible, and a good theory! But wouldnt it be much easier for the Cuban intelligence just to whack him than to spend time and money hiding him? Surely word wouldn't get out if they just killed him. It'd be possible if Gerena spoke out against the Castros or even the regime itself, but on the positive side, Any of us can now go to Cuba and try to investigate where Gerena is and may be. |
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Post by King Of Clubs on Oct 31, 2016 22:17:34 GMT -5
Very possible, and a good theory! But wouldnt it be much easier for the Cuban intelligence just to whack him than to spend time and money hiding him? Surely word wouldn't get out if they just killed him. It'd be possible if Gerena spoke out against the Castros or even the regime itself, but on the positive side, Any of us can now go to Cuba and try to investigate where Gerena is and may be. Yes! Personally I think if he's alive, I don't think he is rich. He probably lost all of the money immidiatley after he got on the island and is living in some average third-world shanty town somewhere. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 31, 2016 22:24:42 GMT -5
It'd be possible if Gerena spoke out against the Castros or even the regime itself, but on the positive side, Any of us can now go to Cuba and try to investigate where Gerena is and may be. Yes! Personally I think if he's alive, I don't think he is rich. He probably lost all of the money immidiatley after he got on the island and is living in some average third-world shanty town somewhere. I think that is also likely and he would also have contact with the government on a usual basis. Gerena living in a shanty town all theses years would be fitting and if they wanted to hide him that would be a good hiding place, amongst others in plain sight in a shanty town, but also keep in mind that government censorship prohibits maybe even the FBI site so I guess that's why Victor can live out there a free man in some way. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Nov 10, 2016 23:51:18 GMT -5
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 15, 2016 15:45:54 GMT -5
Honestly I hoped that a capture would have come out of this case but unfortunately it didn't happen. Gerena managed to outlast his runner up Donald Webb by nearly 10 years.
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 15, 2016 18:36:51 GMT -5
Gerena has been moved to the fugitives on tv section due to his remove from the FBI's Top 10 List. This is moderately surprising despite the coldness of the case because of the supposed improved relationship with Cuba but at the same time the country has given no indication they will extradite longtime fugitives despite somewhat of a thaw.
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