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Post by ninja108 on Dec 19, 2016 10:28:42 GMT -5
Gerena has been moved to the fugitives on tv section due to his remove from the FBI's Top 10 List. This is moderately surprising despite the coldness of the case because of the supposed improved relationship with Cuba but at the same time the country has given no indication they will extradite longtime fugitives despite somewhat of a thaw. Sad that like Glen Godwin, he was removed due to his ability to get away. On the other hand, once it became known he was in Cuba, it should have been known he wouldn't have been caught. IMO, he should have been removed long ago.
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 19, 2016 11:37:56 GMT -5
Yeah they left him on a longgggg time, when it looked like there was no hope (which was pretty much the duration of his stay where it looked like that). So many other fugitives could have been on the list while he was out there untouchable.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 24, 2016 10:32:22 GMT -5
Here's what it says on the official Ten Most Wanted FAQ on Gerena post removal.
386 Victor Manuel Gerena 5/14/1984 12/15/2016
Gerena is wanted in connection with the 1983 armed robbery of approximately $7 million from a security company in West Hartford, Connecticut. He was removed from the list in December of 2016 after it was determined that he no longer fit the criteria for the list.
my guess is that it was determined he was in Cuba (of course everyone knew that), he isn't a threat to public safety and of course Puerto Rican independence groups aren't an issue in 2016/2017 and the lack of tips that were coming in, which explains why he was continuously at the bottom of the list without being rotated.
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Post by Maddog on Mar 7, 2019 20:54:34 GMT -5
You know, I’m wondering if Gerena is even alive. Fugitives hiding in Cuba like Joanne Chesimard and Charles Hill have basically flaunted that they are hiding there. You would think Gerena would be doing the same, but he hasn’t.
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Post by ninja108 on Mar 9, 2019 13:03:29 GMT -5
Yeah they left him on a longgggg time, when it looked like there was no hope (which was pretty much the duration of his stay where it looked like that). So many other fugitives could have been on the list while he was out there untouchable. I get why he was put on there at the start but I think it became clear after the first couple of years that he was in Cuba and wasn't going to be given back. He should have been taken off the list then instead of being the longest tenured fugitive on it.
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Post by ninja108 on Mar 22, 2019 18:36:36 GMT -5
Yeah they left him on a longgggg time, when it looked like there was no hope (which was pretty much the duration of his stay where it looked like that). So many other fugitives could have been on the list while he was out there untouchable. www.nytimes.com/1985/08/31/nyregion/13-held-in-7-million-connecticut-theft.html Was doing some research on FBI Top Tenners and found a New York Times article back in 1985 stating they believed Gerena was in Cuba. Like Semion Mogilevich,it makes you wonder why he was put on the list at all or allowed to stay on as long as he was knowing that he was in a place where he was never going to be turned over to the U.S. It was a waste of spot that could have been used for other bad guys.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 22, 2019 23:08:44 GMT -5
Yeah they left him on a longgggg time, when it looked like there was no hope (which was pretty much the duration of his stay where it looked like that). So many other fugitives could have been on the list while he was out there untouchable. www.nytimes.com/1985/08/31/nyregion/13-held-in-7-million-connecticut-theft.html Was doing some research on FBI Top Tenners and found a New York Times article back in 1985 stating they believed Gerena was in Cuba. Like Semion Mogilevich,it makes you wonder why he was put on the list at all or allowed to stay on as long as he was knowing that he was in a place where he was never going to be turned over to the U.S. It was a waste of spot that could have been used for other bad guys. I would understand their logic that a regime change would have been coming, if Castro gets overthrown by or of communism falls like it did elsewhere, but in the history books it didn’t turn out that way. I think Gerena stayed on the list for as long as he did in hopes there would be a change in leadership in Cuba, it would have made sense to think that at least before 1994. Despite being isolated after 1991, Cuba still kept its system. Gerena stayed on the list too long IMO, Semion Mogilevich never needed to be on the list even if the U.S. govt knew well we weren’t going to get him back since it’s their rival.
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