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Post by HeadMarshal on May 23, 2014 9:59:41 GMT -5
 (Above photo credit: doenetwork.org) Authorities in New York City are trying to identify a woman who they believe was murdered sometime in around a 15-year time period. AMW aired this case in 2006, 2007 and I believe in 2004 as well. On Feb 10, 2003, construction workers in an abandoned Manhattan apartment found a woman's skeleton wrapped in a rug and buried under concrete and dirt. Bone analysts determined the victim was approximately 17-20 years old and was 5'1-5'2. She had expensive dental work done at one point but had tooth decay, indicating she came from at least a middle-class family but had fallen on hard times at some point, meaning she may have become a drug addict or a runaway. Scraps of glittery clothing were found at the crime scene, indicating she may have been a prostitute at the time of her death. Prostitutes were known to use the abandoned building in the late 1980s. The biggest clue was a ring that the victim was wearing, it was gold coloured with the initials "P McG". When detectives tried to determine when the victim had died at the time of the AMW profiles, found along or near the victim was a 1966 watch, a 1969 dime, a brand of rat poison that was not marketed until 1979, and a label that was not created before December 1987. There was also a plastic toy soldier that could not be dated. The victim had her hands and feet bound with an extension cord that was also circled around her neck. According to her NamUS profile, investigators have "probably" found that she did not die before 1992. ----- It should be mentioned that members of a different true crime message board have been discussing this case as well, and have stated their own opinions which while contradicts the opinions of Law Enforcement, doesn't hurt to mention them. - Between 1964-1970, the building where the victim was found was owned by a rock band group. vanishingnewyork.blogspot.ca/2013/05/301-west-46th.html- Someone claims that the label was not related to the International Ladies Garment Workers Union (despite what was mentioned by AMW), but was a different label used from 1938-1964. - Someone else didn't feel that most of the items found with the body had anything to do with the victim, since she was found in a basement. -- Thoughts? As much as expressing different opinions on cold cases like these don't hurt, I don't personally agree with them. I personally doubt the rock band from the 60s is really connected to this case since if they were to pour concrete over the victim, then the items from 1979-1987 found with the victim shouldn't have been there. If someone from the group or an associate was the killer(s), then the victim would have likely been located if the concrete hadn't been poured. Sadly, if the victim was a runaway and became a prostitute, which is quite possible, then it's likely she was never reported missing. Which would explain why investigators haven't found a missing person match. However, if anyone has different opinions regarding this case, then feel free to explain them.  UPDATE from site admin : In April 2024, Midtown Jane Doe was identified as Patricia McGlone, who disappeared as a teenager in New York in 1969. However, the search for her killer remains unsolved.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 31, 2014 16:26:25 GMT -5
Hey, all of us are random posters on the internet so I can't say anything bad about that. I respectfully disagree with most of those opinions but they are interesting. I think the problem is the victim's time of death was unfortunately a tumultuous time for New York City. I also feel the victim was a prostitute for a few reasons. Besides what was found on her body, the late 70's and 80's were rife with prostitution in New York City, especially in Times Square which although I don't know the exact apartment location she was found in, was probably close enough. My parents who would sometimes take me and my brother to New Jersey to visit friends and relatives would take side-streets when we came back late at night from the Port Authority to avoid the main ruckus. I hate saying this, but unfortunately there was probably so many prostitutes in the city during that time it might be impossible to identify this victim. Also, as far as P McG is concerned, it might not have anything to do with the victim's name. I googled PMCG and jewelery and came up with this website: www.augustadezines.co/Products.htmlThe description the Jeweler uses has on how she makes her jewelery is very intriguing and might explain the PmcG: The metal jewelry I make is created from a new medium called Percious Metal Clay, or PMC. In the late 1980's Mitsubishi Materials Corporation was looking for profitable ways to use their mined and recycled precious metals. Precious Metal Clay is composed of precious metal particles (silver, gold, copper, bronze), a non-toxic organic binder and water. The binder allows the metal particles to stay together in a workable clay-like form. (There is no "clay" in it, that is just a descriptive term for the form the metal is in prior to fireing.) The product is worked like a clay and then fired in a kiln at high temperatures. The heat burns of the binder and the water, the result is a solid metal with characteristics simiular to those of cast precious metal! PMC IS PURE METAL! PMCS: Silver PMCC: Cpper PMCB: Bronze PMCG: Gold So if perhaps the victim's ring has to do with this abbreviation, and the artist who made precious metal gold, mentions it comes from the Mitsubishi Materials Corporation in the late 1980's, then it would put the victim's year of death more towards 1987 than 1979. I'm not sure if it was just Mitsubishi that made these materials, but I'm willing to bet the ring could have possibly been sold in New York's diamond district which although I'm too young to know for sure seemed established in the mid-1980's based on what I could find on internet searches. The main thoroughfare is 47th street between 5th and 6th avenues which is in midtown Manhattan. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how easy it would be to discover a shop that could have possible sold the ring since I'm sure some stores replaced old ones and not all records are available. |
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Post by HeadMarshal on May 31, 2014 17:51:29 GMT -5
Maybe I was being slightly rude when it came to the other opinions on the internet. I edited the first post to be more respectful. |
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Post by TheWebDetective on Apr 23, 2015 13:29:47 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 24, 2015 10:02:34 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 11, 2017 4:47:43 GMT -5
ABC 7 New York did a new story on the Midtown Jane Doe case just last month which is really cool to see. They interview a police detective who mentions that maps based on isotopic (chemical) analysis str0ngly favor that Midtown Jane Doe is from the Midwest. He added that Jane Doe was found a near a section of Midtown dubbed the "Minnesota Strip" where young girls from the Midwest often ended up after running into trouble. abc7ny.com/crime-stoppers-water-could-help-solve-a-cold-case/2528789/ |
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Post by TheWebDetective on Jun 30, 2021 18:47:02 GMT -5
HeadMarshal's original post noted that some in the true crime community don't believe that most of the items found with the body had anything to do with the victim, since she was found in a basement. I am of that camp. To emphasize, we're talking about a dank and dirty basement of an abandoned building in the neighborhood known for seedy activity called Hell's Kitchen in New York City of all places. Not to mention the construction workers who found Midtown Doe dismantled much of the spot before finding her. So unless there's some clarification, it's unclear that the items mentioned were inside the concrete at the time of the crime or the items accumulated at that spot regardless of when the crime took place.
The best item as a clue by far is the ring and I hope the inscriptions actually point to her name and not something random. Assuming law enforcement have since exhausted everyone with the ring initials, the ball is now on the someone who haven't seen the victim in years to file a report. But that depends heavily on what was the life and relationships of Midtown Doe before her murder was like to find out. Regardless if she was a runaway turned prostitute or not. I strongly think it's best to find out the killer first, especially considering the circumstances of Midtown Doe's death. This is likely the MO of a serial killer or someone from organized crime. Thus finding the aforementioned who are known or unknown who done similar crimes can be key.
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Post by TheWebDetective on May 3, 2024 6:43:22 GMT -5
In a shocking turn of events, the Midtown Jane Doe has finally been identified as Patricia McGlone. Through recent methods and fantastic police work they were able to identify her through a family member who was a 9/11 victim. They suspect she may have been a victim of domestic violence. But what's most interesting is that not only was she a native of New York this whole time, the 1969 death estimate may actually be the truer one. Leading the late 80s estimate of a runaway turned sex worker that was leaned on for years inaccurate. www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/30/patricia-kathleen-mcglone-midtown-jane-doe-cold-case/73515200007/ |
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Post by outlawtaco on May 3, 2024 6:53:11 GMT -5
Nice find web detective
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Post by Scumhunter on May 3, 2024 6:58:14 GMT -5
In a shocking turn of events, the Midtown Jane Doe has finally been identified as Patricia McGlone. Through recent methods and fantastic police work they were able to identify her through a family member who was a 9/11 victim. They suspect she may have been a victim of domestic violence. But what's most interesting is that not only was she a native of New York this whole time, the 1969 death estimate may actually be the truer one. Leading the late 80s estimate of a runaway turned sex worker that was leaned on for years inaccurate. www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/30/patricia-kathleen-mcglone-midtown-jane-doe-cold-case/73515200007/Thank you unfortunately the USA Today article was paywalled for me so I linked to a People one but glad she at least has her name back now. |
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Post by 912thamwuser on May 3, 2024 19:30:00 GMT -5
Besides identifying her murderers who aren't likely to be brought in alive, this leaves only fugitive Daniel Andreas San Diego and missing child Sofia Juarez from the March 6, 2004 broadcast, and as far as I recall, fugitive Pedro Montiel Reyes from the June 17, 2006 broadcast.
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Post by pakman on Nov 9, 2024 11:14:35 GMT -5
I only now realized that she had been identified, but I think the most astonishing part of this is that the ring proved to be the most accurate clue. Jewelry experts said the engraving likely represented someone with the initials "P McG." Her name is Patricia McGlone.
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