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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 19, 2016 15:21:52 GMT -5
I read a few years back that they also had tips of Fisher overseas, there were even tips coming in from even Saudi Arabia about Fisher. I don't remember where I read it but I'll try to find a link.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2016 15:30:06 GMT -5
I sincerely doubt Fisher is in Saudia Arabia LOL, but stranger things have happened. Basically, international cases like this, you're going to get tips from everywhere, many countries in the world. Most of the time, it's going to be look-a-like, but all the FBI needs is that one time where it's actually Fisher.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 19, 2016 16:46:33 GMT -5
I getcha. Honestly I've been thinking Fisher is turning 55 this upcoming April and it'll be now 15 years that same month since he's been on the run, and 14 years this June since he was added (if he's not caught by then)... I was wondering since he's fairly young how long he's gonna stay on the top ten list if he's not caught??? Victor Gerena is turning 58 and he's been on the list 32 years. Like I doubt a guy like Robert Fisher would be removed since the crime he committed was very heinous, but I ask you Scumhunter what are your thoughts since this guy may probably last decades on the list without capture if Him being featured on The Hunt doesn't seem to work?
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2016 17:18:19 GMT -5
Since it's very rare for the FBI to remove fugitives in the first place, as I said before, Semion Mogilevich sort of has us spoiled, I can see Fisher at age 80 still being on the list. I sincerely hope it doesn't take the long, but the case is that serious. I can swear I remember law enforcement once saying they really won't stop working on a case until the fugitive is 100 years old. I do think last year part of the reason Mogilevich was removed was not just he wouldn't be extradited the capture lull in top 10 fugitives, it was the first time in like six years they didn't have a capture. The FBI wanted a fresh start of sorts and he was the easiest one to remove. So obviously, a lot will depend on if the FBI can finally capture some of these long timers. The more lulls in capture, the more they might think about removing someone from the list again, but I'd say Fisher is behind Gerena, Glen Godwin, possibly Brad Bishop, and even Eduardo Ravelo as far as odds to be removed. I think he's probably the fourth or fifth most likely guy at this point, which means he should be on there for at least the next 10 years if not caught. Let's hope The Hunt makes this a moot point.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 19, 2016 17:23:56 GMT -5
I agree with you. The elusive 9 as of right now are off the table for removal, Bishop I could see on the list for another 5-15 years. Godwin I do think will be removed sometime in the next 5-10 years, Gerena I believe now will probably be handed over to the US or captured in Puerto Rico hopefully if not then maybe he's the next to be bumped off in a few years, Ravelo we haven't talked much about but it's basically El Chapo 2.0 lol. But honestly Lets hope Fisher gets caught in 2016.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 8, 2016 17:04:03 GMT -5
New images out of Robert Fisher, he has the original 2 on his poster still and several others they did which is pretty good job they did. I do agree they resemble Fisher 100%
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 8, 2016 17:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 8, 2016 17:35:17 GMT -5
Ahh yes. Well at least we see this case is going somewhere, the other age enhanced photos weren't as effective in my opinion, but these new images are over the top brilliant. With these photographs I feel he may go down before Brenda Delgado lol
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 8, 2016 17:39:51 GMT -5
I hope so. 15 years is way too long. My opinion changes from day to day lol but right now I'm of the belief he's alive and scarily enough- I believe he's possibly settled down with a new family by now.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 8, 2016 17:45:07 GMT -5
It is a long time. I'm honestly mixed about Fisher, but I'll see if these images or the hunt will finally put him in hand cuffs. Also you can tell he definitely is going to be on the hunt since they got those images. They did the same for Brad Bishop when he was on first season and the same for Yaser Said, so they're going in the right direction. Also if you click and see the images, yes they are very clear in detail, it's not a blurry redo of his 1999 photograph anymore which imo wasn't as effective for that reason... A person needs to observe the face more clearly to see if ; hey he has the same facial features as the guy in the most wanted poster.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 10, 2016 22:59:37 GMT -5
Now I know this may seem like a conspiracy theory or something. But I'm thinking Robert Fisher was inspired by John List and Bradford Bishop in the 1970s when his parents split... It was reported his step parent abused him and perhaps out of the pain and anger he took notes as Bishop killed his wife in 76. Also you can see the fact that Bishop may have inspired him more since the similarities of how both men disappeared and the circumstances are very similar, they both killed their families in the evening, they both spared the family dogs except Fisher left his behind, both men disappeared after leaving their vehicles in heavily wooded areas. Now from the disappearance both fugitives part ways as Bishop has been sighted 3 times in Europe and Fisher hasn't. Honestly seeing the similarities makes me wonder if Fisher as a teen was inspired by what Bradford Bishop did to his family to go on and do that years later to his own because he was abused by his step-parent? Now the timeline of when his parents split and the similarities between him and Bradford Bishop make it seem like Fisher was inspired, he carried the pain of what his step parent did to him that caused him to murder his family... He didn't want his kids going through what he did and I'll say for the record I'm not condoning what he did at all.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 11, 2016 6:16:52 GMT -5
I'm going to have to disagree. I think Fisher had the same psychotic mindset, but I don't think he "studied" Bishop and his motivations were different. Bishop basically killed his family in part because of his getting upset at not being promoted and wanting a "clean slate." Fisher basically killed his family because he was allegedly controlling and possessive. There were allegations of abuse. (I know the Bishop case says there was arguing in the family, but I never read anything about alleged physical abuse from Bishop before he killed them.)
Fisher had a decent job and had no reason to go anywhere. I feel that his marriage was ending, and Fisher once made a comment to his Mary Fisher's father, the late Bill Cooper, that "don't worry, there won't be a divorce in my family"- when he first got married. Basically, he'd rather allegedly kill his family than go through with divorce because in his own sick mind- his religion forbade divorce and this option was better.
I think Fisher and Bishop are the same alleged sick people, but they had different motivators towards killing their family.
As for John List, those cases are more similar, but I think guys who kill their families just have the same psychotic mindset, they didn't necessarily study each other.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 11, 2016 6:19:01 GMT -5
Right. It's just that one snap that leads them to commit a heinous crime and where they go afterwards is up in the air.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 23, 2016 9:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 23, 2016 10:03:21 GMT -5
Interesting article, we see so many times when the sibling, parent etc... defends the fugitive they're related to, usually because they can't face reality. But in this case, Fisher's sister does seem to accept the reality that Fisher possibly murdered his family, which of course is a hard thing to fathom.
One thing that gets overlooked in these cases is the victim's family not only suffers but also the alleged murderer's family as well, who has the live with the fact one of their own blood did such a horrible thing. If Fisher's caught, convicted, sent to jail, etc. While it will be painful to know the truth, at least the ordeal will finally be over as opposed to this current situation of not knowing if Fisher is dead somewhere or living a free man. It's important to solve these cases to get closure for EVERYONE.
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