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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 15, 2014 7:17:21 GMT -5
I vote for Allen for the same reasons as 912th and for Estrada because although it's rare I'd take a fugitive who killed people who were likely not so nice themselves over a child killer he had not only a very high death toll but was also pretty infamous- an FBI top tenner AND a minor celebrity boxer.
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Post by danwind on Jul 15, 2014 16:34:35 GMT -5
Stanley Faison and James Edward Noel advance. Steven Ray Allen, #62, Ags 12, 1989 In December 1986, he abused and strangled his girlfriend's 3 year old son in Utah. In November 1987, he shot a man to death in a stolen property dispute in California. He was busted in Ravalli County, Idaho, roaming the mountains on a horse, badly malnourished. He got life in prison for the two killings. vs Karl "Fabulous" Dunstrom, Steven McMillian, and Kirk Bruce, #4/#5/#6, Apl 9/Apl 15, 1988 In January 1988, these three people burst into an apartment in Landover, Maryland with machine guns, sprayed bullets, and assassinated 5 crack gang members in a drug war dispute. Previously, in late November 1987, Dunstrom had also murdered a 17 year old boy in NYC. Dunstrom was busted in a basement in NYC after a brief struggle on April 9, 1988. On April 15, McMillian and Bruce were busted at McMillian's mother's house. and Seymour Pinckney, #79, Oct 22, 1989 For years, he'd beaten and molested his common-law wife's 4 young daughters. In 1978, he killed his common-law wife and the eldest stepdaughter in New Jersey. After 11 years, this prolific child molester turned family destroyer was busted in Mathews Court House, Virginia. vs Pedro Luis Estrada, #73, Oct 1, 1989 A former professional boxer on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. In 1985, he was involved in drug trafficking and robberies. From May to August 1986, he shot 7 people dead in drug contract hits. He was busted in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, unarmed where his parents were staying. The Shower Gang and Pedro Luis Estrada may have had astronomical death tolls, and Estrada held a position on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted. However... Steven Ray Allen murdered 2 innocent people, including a toddler, and Seymour Pinckney was a familial child sex assaulter who graduated to multiple murders. So I'll vote for Steven Ray Allen and Seymour Pinckney. I voted for Steven Ray Allen and Seymour Pinckney |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 15, 2014 17:40:31 GMT -5
I vote the same as Scumhunter.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 16, 2014 16:03:35 GMT -5
Steven Ray Allen shuts out the Shower Gang. Pinckney vs Estrada ended in a tie, so I have to flip a coin. If heads, Seymour. If tails, Pedro. Aaand... tails!
Round 3
Teddy Unterreiner, #57, Jly 9, 1989
A Bay Area, California pedophile. He would volunteer as a student's tutor for SouthEast Asian boys, then molest them. There were at least 20 victims. His arrest warrant was issued in June 1988, but he fled. He was already in jail in Vancouver, Canada, for molesting a 10 year old Asian boy when an AMW tipster led law enforcement to him. He's the earliest fugitive in the capture roster that we know of who was busted serving time in another prison on newer charges.
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Kirkton Moore and Raylene Brooks, #28/#29, Oct 27/Oct 28, 1988
In September 1988, Kirkton committed a drive-by shooting that wounded 3 people, with Raylene (born in circa 1971) as the getaway driver. A few minutes after the drive-by, he killed a police officer with an assault rifle. Just over a month after the 4 casualties, Kirkton and Raylene surrendered at a TV newsman's station in Hollywood, California. Kirkton was sentenced to 2 life terms with no parole. Raylene got 1/4 century to life, but rumors have been spreading of public desire for them to release Raylene, because she was still under 18 at the time of the shootings, and was not the triggerman.
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James Ray Renton, #22, Spt 6, 1988
An Arkansas cop killer on the US Marshals' 15 Most Wanted list. He had escaped from several prisons starting in 1985. During a jailbreak in July 1988, he escaped a maximum security prison. He was busted in Austin, Texas, sleeping at night in a Salvation Army shelter barracks. He's now serving life without parole.
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John P Eastlack, #67, Spt 11, 1989
A diagnosed former booze baby. In Tucson, Arizona, he was serving 9 years for fraud. Around the turn of September 1989, he escaped. 3 days later, he murdered an elderly couple. Just over a week after the murders, a tipster busted him in El Paso, Texas. He was sentenced to life in prison. During a jailhouse interview, he said of America's Most Wanted, "It's a damn good show. I mean, it caught me!"
My votes go to Unterreiner for molesting dozens of preteen children and Renton for killing a cop, escaping from multiple prisons, and making it to the US Marshals' 15 Most Wanted list.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 16, 2014 16:05:59 GMT -5
I vote for Moore/Brooks and Eastlack.
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Post by pakman on Jul 16, 2014 18:16:35 GMT -5
You know, I think I'll jump in here and start voting  My votes are for Unterreiner and Renton. Unterreiner, at 20 victims, is one of the most prolific child molesters AMW has ever captured, and the fact he was caught while in prison shows that he didn't let his fugitive status stop his crime spree. Renton is one of the most violent fugitives AMW has ever profiled, and in fact was actually on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list at one point in the 60s. He also went to drastic lengths to keep himself hidden when AMW caught him. According to a brief clip I saw of his walk of shame, John Walsh said Renton "pulled out his own teeth and shaved his head to keep from being recognized. It didn't work." |
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Post by danwind on Jul 16, 2014 18:30:18 GMT -5
You know, I think I'll jump in here and start voting My votes are for Unterreiner and Renton. Unterreiner, at 20 victims, is one of the most prolific child molesters AMW has ever captured, and the fact he was caught while in prison shows that he didn't let his fugitive status stop his crime spree. Renton is one of the most violent fugitives AMW has ever profiled, and in fact was actually on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list at one point in the 60s. He also went to drastic lengths to keep himself hidden when AMW caught him. According to a brief clip I saw of his walk of shame, John Walsh said Renton "pulled out his own teeth and shaved his head to keep from being recognized. It didn't work." I also voting for Unterreiner and Renton as well |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 17, 2014 12:28:45 GMT -5
Voting for Unterreiner and Renton for the same reasons as Pakman.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 17, 2014 14:02:42 GMT -5
PAKman88, it's about time you showed up! Unterreiner and Renton advance 4 to 1. Now for the second half of the quarterfinals!
Stanley Faison, #38, Dcb 24, 1988
A Detroit drug conspiracy doorman on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. In 1965, he bludgeoned a man to death and stole his car. In June of 1987, he stabbed a fellow drug dealer to death. On Christmas Eve 1988, he was busted in Detroit, Michigan, unarmed underneath a bed.
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James Edward Noel, #97, Fbr 26, 1990
After being charged with raping at least 5 women, he was paroled. In October 1989, he killed a woman in Los Angeles after failing in his attempts to rape her. The victim was an apartment manager whose co-manager eventually became the infamous Hollywood Madam. He was busted in California and is now serving life with no chance of parole. The eventual Hollywood Madam was later given an interview where she talked at length about her late friend.
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Steven Ray Allen, #62, Ags 12, 1989
In December 1986, he abused and strangled his girlfriend's 3 year old son in Utah. In November 1987, he shot a man to death in a stolen property dispute in California. He was busted in Ravalli County, Idaho, roaming the mountains on a horse, badly malnourished. He got life in prison for the two killings.
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Pedro Luis Estrada, #73, Oct 1, 1989
A former professional boxer on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. In 1985, he was involved in drug trafficking and robberies. From May to August 1986, he shot 7 people dead in drug contract hits. He was busted in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, unarmed where his parents were staying.
My votes go to James Edward Noel for the sex crime factor and the Hollywood Madam connection, and Steven Ray Allen for 2 murders and crimes against children.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 17, 2014 15:17:45 GMT -5
I vote for Noel and Estrada.
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Post by danwind on Jul 17, 2014 17:27:43 GMT -5
PAKman88, it's about time you showed up! Unterreiner and Renton advance 4 to 1. Now for the second half of the quarterfinals! Stanley Faison, #38, Dcb 24, 1988 A Detroit drug conspiracy doorman on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. In 1965, he bludgeoned a man to death and stole his car. In June of 1987, he stabbed a fellow drug dealer to death. On Christmas Eve 1988, he was busted in Detroit, Michigan, unarmed underneath a bed. vs James Edward Noel, #97, Fbr 26, 1990 After being charged with raping at least 5 women, he was paroled. In October 1989, he killed a woman in Los Angeles after failing in his attempts to rape her. The victim was an apartment manager whose co-manager eventually became the infamous Hollywood Madam. He was busted in California and is now serving life with no chance of parole. The eventual Hollywood Madam was later given an interview where she talked at length about her late friend. and Steven Ray Allen, #62, Ags 12, 1989 In December 1986, he abused and strangled his girlfriend's 3 year old son in Utah. In November 1987, he shot a man to death in a stolen property dispute in California. He was busted in Ravalli County, Idaho, roaming the mountains on a horse, badly malnourished. He got life in prison for the two killings. vs Pedro Luis Estrada, #73, Oct 1, 1989 A former professional boxer on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. In 1985, he was involved in drug trafficking and robberies. From May to August 1986, he shot 7 people dead in drug contract hits. He was busted in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, unarmed where his parents were staying. My votes go to James Edward Noel for the sex crime factor and the Hollywood Madam connection, and Steven Ray Allen for 2 murders and crimes against children. I voting for James Edward Noel and Steven Ray Allen |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 19, 2014 14:24:54 GMT -5
Know what time it is? It's time for the Semifinals!
Teddy Unterreiner, #57, Jly 9, 1989
A Bay Area, California pedophile. He would volunteer as a student's tutor for SouthEast Asian boys, then molest them. There were at least 20 victims. His arrest warrant was issued in June 1988, but he fled. He was already in jail in Vancouver, Canada, for molesting a 10 year old Asian boy when an AMW tipster led law enforcement to him. He's the earliest fugitive in the capture roster that we know of who was busted serving time in another prison on newer charges.
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James Ray Renton, #22, Spt 6, 1988
An Arkansas cop killer on the US Marshals' 15 Most Wanted list. He had escaped from several prisons starting in 1985. During a jailbreak in July 1988, he escaped a maximum security prison. He was busted in Austin, Texas, sleeping at night in a Salvation Army shelter barracks. He's now serving life without parole.
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James Edward Noel, #97, Fbr 26, 1990
After being charged with raping at least 5 women, he was paroled. In October 1989, he killed a woman in Los Angeles after failing in his attempts to rape her. The victim was an apartment manager whose co-manager eventually became the infamous Hollywood Madam. He was busted in California and is now serving life with no chance of parole. The eventual Hollywood Madam was later given an interview where she talked at length about her late friend.
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Steven Ray Allen, #62, Ags 12, 1989
In December 1986, he abused and strangled his girlfriend's 3 year old son in Utah. In November 1987, he shot a man to death in a stolen property dispute in California. He was busted in Ravalli County, Idaho, roaming the mountains on a horse, badly malnourished. He got life in prison for the two killings.
I think I better reserve my vote until I see a more convincing argument for both of these match-ups!
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 19, 2014 15:40:05 GMT -5
Unterreiner and Noel. Both of their opponents were pretty bad, and it appears even so I took notoriety into account. Unterriener getting busted in prison and being the first one and Noel having the Hollywood Madam involved in his case.
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Post by danwind on Jul 19, 2014 19:40:17 GMT -5
Know what time it is? It's time for the Semifinals! Teddy Unterreiner, #57, Jly 9, 1989 A Bay Area, California pedophile. He would volunteer as a student's tutor for SouthEast Asian boys, then molest them. There were at least 20 victims. His arrest warrant was issued in June 1988, but he fled. He was already in jail in Vancouver, Canada, for molesting a 10 year old Asian boy when an AMW tipster led law enforcement to him. He's the earliest fugitive in the capture roster that we know of who was busted serving time in another prison on newer charges. vs James Ray Renton, #22, Spt 6, 1988 An Arkansas cop killer on the US Marshals' 15 Most Wanted list. He had escaped from several prisons starting in 1985. During a jailbreak in July 1988, he escaped a maximum security prison. He was busted in Austin, Texas, sleeping at night in a Salvation Army shelter barracks. He's now serving life without parole. and James Edward Noel, #97, Fbr 26, 1990 After being charged with raping at least 5 women, he was paroled. In October 1989, he killed a woman in Los Angeles after failing in his attempts to rape her. The victim was an apartment manager whose co-manager eventually became the infamous Hollywood Madam. He was busted in California and is now serving life with no chance of parole. The eventual Hollywood Madam was later given an interview where she talked at length about her late friend. vs Steven Ray Allen, #62, Ags 12, 1989 In December 1986, he abused and strangled his girlfriend's 3 year old son in Utah. In November 1987, he shot a man to death in a stolen property dispute in California. He was busted in Ravalli County, Idaho, roaming the mountains on a horse, badly malnourished. He got life in prison for the two killings. I think I better reserve my vote until I see a more convincing argument for both of these match-ups! I voted for James Ray Renton and Steven Ray Allen for the finals |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 19, 2014 20:05:37 GMT -5
I'm personally voting for Unterreiner and Allen. Very justified that these four captures made the semifinals.
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